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I've been researching 19th Century Turkmen people for a short story I'm currently working on, and while plenty of my research has proved really useful for the story, there're some awesome tidbits that I have no way of working in. And so, I bring them to you!

• Pre-Islamic beliefs apparently linger among the Turkmen, such that "Even today, in some extremely remote areas, one can occasionally see the skull and skin of a sacrificed horse hanging on a tree or shrub." These sacrifices are to Tengri, currying favours.
• Zengibaba is the saint-protector of cattle.
Source: Rafis Abazon, Culture and Customs of the Central Asian Republics, Greenwood Press: 2007.

• "Remnants of totemism cited by Rashid al-Din indicated that each tribe revered a bird that was not touched or eaten." (But it was unclear whether this referred to Turkmen or other Turkic peoples.)
• For the bridal wedding procession, where the bride goes to her husband's yurt, there are small carpet-covers for the camel's knees, "in deference to the camels' well-known sense of modesty."
Source: Louise W Mackie & Jon Thompson, eds. Turkmen: Tribal Carpets and Traditions, The Textile Museum, Washington DC: 1980.

• [a certain river] "is fabulously rich in fish at about four or five geographical miles from its mouth, so that its waters appeared almost coloured by them, and are in summer hardly drinkable. After I had only twice used it for washing, my hands and face acquired a strong fishy smell."
Source: Arminius Vambéry, Travels in Central Asia, John Murray: 1864.
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This isn't so much leftover as something I found while researching something else: Sangaku, Japanese geometrical puzzles in Euclidean geometry which people placed in temples during the Edo period (1603–1867). Sometimes a mathematician would solve a problem then put the problem but not it's solution in a temple as a way of saying "I have solved this, now you do it!".

Also Japanese mathematicians developed their own form of mathematics parallel to that of the West during the Edo period, though I can't find any concrete descriptions in English of how exactly it differed. They seem to have found a lot of the same theorems as their European contemporaries independently (and sometimes first) but afaict didn't have as advanced techniques of differentiation or any integration and used more geometric series etc. (In particular, no Galois theory afaict. Possibly only interesting to me because I really like Galois Theory :))

This site about Sangaku thinks they weren't as popular nor Japan as cut off as is generally thought.
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This is not exactly left-over research, but it's certainly research I currently have going spare.

Word on the street is that a Certain Well-Known Writer of Historical Romances has compared fanfic of her works to white slavery (not in the current kerfuffle, but in an earlier debate on a posting board somewhere).

I'm not sure how it played out in other regions, but in the UK 'white slavery' became very early on a synonym for the drugging and kidnapping of perfectly innocent young girls* while they were out shopping, in cinemas, having a cup of tea in Lyons Corner House, etc.

It was pretty much entirely a sensationalist media trope, which profoundly irritated dedicated workers in moral reform and social purity organisations whenever it surfaced in the early C20th equivalent of the tabloid press. They repeatedly pointed out that in no case where it had been claimed that a girl had been abducted by brothelkeepers for their malign purposes had this ever turned out on investigation to be the case, and in most instances in which a young woman had left home and not returned, she had gone off of her own accord, usually with forethought and planning, to e.g. shack up with a boyfriend.

There is also an amusing letter written to the papers as late as the 1950s (when these myths were still flourishing) by a woman doctor pointing out that it's not really that easy to inject a fully clothed person both surreptitiously and effectively with a narcotic drug in the middle of a crowded public space, not to mention have it act with the expedition that would have been necessary if the stories were true.

The myth crops up persistently in fiction and memoirs of the early C20th (Jessica Mitford alludes to it in Hons and Rebels and in Dodie Smith's I Capture the Castle Cassandra is suspicious of a hospital nurse she spots in Lyons Corner House on account of having heard these tales).

I was particularly struck by the resemblance to this trope of the stories that started cropping up later in the C20th about people who had been doped and had their kidneys removed...

*Okay, I think it can plausibly be argued that the whole thing was strongly connected to women's increasing presence in public spaces for leisure activities and without chaperonage and the fears that aroused.

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Number of dead through out history

The current population is pretty small, by comparison. Or maybe it's a frightening percentage of all the people to have ever lived. I'm not sure.

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Interesting tidbits I have to share (not done reading it):

1. The various tribes thought of themselves as different portions of a longhouse, because they all were "people of the longhouse". So, the Mohawks were the east door, and I'll have to list the rest when I get back home. (ETA: "The Senecas were known as the 'keepers of the western door' and the Mohawks as the 'keepers of the eastern door." The Onondagas were the firekeepers, at the geographic center of Iroquoia. That leaves the Oneida and the Cayuga, not sure about their longhouse section names.)
2. Men sat in council but were elected by the senior women of the tribe, and families were matrilineal.
3. They had "mourning war," sponsored/egged on by the women of the community, and used to replace lost relatives (and thereby indirectly maintain the size of the kinship group) if the loss of that relative was too greatly felt to be assuaged by time.
4. When capturing 'slaves' (to replace lost relatives), some would be kept as new family, and others - usually strong men, de facto warriors - would be tortured to death and sometimes? frequently? cannibalized. The men taken for torture would exhort their captors to do their worst, and taunt them to make their torture more horrific, to show their strength. The more the man could endure, the more highly he was regarded, even though a nominal enemy. (ETA: by eating him, the strength he showed in his torture and death was absorbed into the group.)
5. We look at them as tribes, but they a) shared linguistic background, using the same term to describe themselves (people of the longhouse), and b) divided themselves into crisscrossing networks of kinship groups (localized family groups).
6. They divided the world into "us" and "them" via trade. Either you were someone they traded with, or someone they warred with. If you traded with them, they viewed you as part of their confederation, basically.
7. Replenishing bonds between communities in this enormous network, included a ceremony grounded in consoling the bereaved, where part of the participants take on the role of inconsolable, and there's a whole ritual to make them whole and address their grief. It all seems to go back, IMO, to the death of one of the creator-twins who helped make all the animals and men of the world. (ETA (here's the legend, note it says nothing about the creator-twins, but having one die as part of the creation mythos is just too telling for me to let go): "Iroquois oral tradition tells . . . a virgin Huron woman living north of Iroquoia gave birth to a son." To wit, Deganawidah, the Peacemaker, who traveled to Iroquoia, preaching peace. He converted Hiawatha, "an Onondaga who had killed and eaten many of his enemies but whose grief over the loss of his own daughters left him inconsolable. Deganawidah restored Hiawatha's well-being by giving him three strings of beads while reciting words of condolence." The three strands dried his tears, cleared his throat (so he could speak), and opened his ears (so he could hear [the Peacemaker's message]). Hiawatha went on to heal the hate of an Onondaga sorcerer named Tadadaho, whose hate had twisted his body and even his hair. Hiawatha and Tadadaho founded the Iroquois League to preserve Deganawidah's message.)
8. Ergo, the concept of loss, grief, and recovery from that grief, are critical, culturally speaking, not just to an individual grieving, but to the entire community. (ETA: "The condolence ritual described in the Deganawidah Epic became the cermonial centerpiece of the Iroquois League." Conducted annually at the Grand Council.) Essentially, restoration of an injured person is paramount to the maintenance of the collective (kinship group).

Fascinating stuff.

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